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Interview With An Alien Essay, Research Paper

Interview with an Alien

Ida Kannenberg, an elderly lady, lives in

Hillsboro, Oregon, where she and her husband own

and operate a successful antique shop. Although she

is now nearly [eighty], she continues to travel all

over the world searching out and buying antiques

for their shop. She is highly energetic, well-

educated, and interested in a wide variety of subjects.

Mrs. Kannenberg’s first physical UFO encounter

took place in 1940, during a night when she was

out on the desert. At first she was only able to

remember a blazing red object coming toward her, but

not what happened afterwards. The shock was so

great that for many years she remained confused as

to what had actually happened to her. In 1968, she

began to have telepathic experiences, which were

initially very frightening. In 1980, she tried being

regressed under hypnosis by Dr. Leo Sprinkle. During

the sessions conducted by Dr. Sprinkle, she was unable

to recall what her captors looked like, but did remember

that technological implants had been made, including

audio-visual implants. The UFO entities can see through

her eyes and hear through her ears. She is aware of

the continuous presence of what she calls her “live-in

companion,” who answers to the name of Hweig.

Mrs. Kannenberg realizes that Hweig would be

explained away by conventional scientists in terms

of split personality or some other form of mental

abberation. Although she does not agree with this

interpretation of her situation, she does not claim to

have any paranormal abilities because of her contact

with Hweig. She does not seek publicity, nor does

she avoid it. She writes down dialogues and insights

she finds to be of particular interest as they occur,

and has given me permission to quote the following

descriptions:

There is the problem that eerything I can see, he can

also. Not only Hweig, but his immediate crew. Since their

observation is through technological implants, the whole

scene can be played upon a screen, like our television.

Hweig is an enormous tease. I suppose it does get

boring always listening in to me 24 hours a day, though

sometimes he takes a vacation for a week or more and someone

else monitors. I try to tease Hweig back. The only problem

is he always knows what I am thinking as soon as I know it

myself. Therefore it is very difficult to play any kind of

joke on him. I managed it just once.

I was looking for a particular skillet in the pantry

and talking all the whole, internally of course. I said,

“Not that skillet, it is too large, and this one is too

small, that one is for square eggs, ah, this one is just

right.”

Back came a quizzical little query “Square eggs? I

don’t think I ever heard about square eggs.”

There are several things I can do to drive Hweig up

the wall. If I sneeze or whistle, he will say, “Please warn

me when you are going to do that. A sneeze sounds like a

thunder, and a whistle pierces my eardrums like a dagger.”

This Hweig/Ida or Ida/Hweig collaboration has

been reached with a great many battles between us, a great

deal of stomping and yelling on my part, and a great many

sighs and apologies on his. Sometimes it is sheer

aggravation; after all, I am married! And sometimes it is

absolutely hilarious.

In the beginning of our association Hweig terrified

me with his explanations of who and what he was, and

what he intended to do. I was afraid that my mind was going

to be taken over by an alien personality. However, aftermore

than four years of this constant telepathic contact,

I feel very much myself. Even more so, for I know myself

so much better. I have had to face up to myself.

To me one of the big questions has always been: why

is Hweig a CONSTANT companion? Is he a monitor only? Why

do the Ufolk care what I say and do every minute? I’m not

anyone. Why is my daily routine of such importance to

them? Why did Hweig so entrench himself in my mind

and life that I cannot dislodge him no matter what I say or

do? I have begged, pleaded, wept, screamed…but he is

still with me.

Hweig has put me through some very painful processes,

but he declares they were necessary in order that he

learn the levels of my tolerance and modes of reaction, so

that the best possible use might be made of my peculiar

talents and abilities. Certain limitations had to be

overcome, or at least ameliorated. And when I cuss him out

from time to time, I am only letting him know the limits of

my compliance.

With mechanical devices that permit mind invasion

and control, an alien civilization could conduct any kind of

surveillance, and there would be no defense against it. The

aliens can do this now. How long before Earth science can

do the same? Or can they do it now? Can the aliens be

Earthlians?

I am not trying to “scare talk.” I am trying to relate

what has been done to me by persons who seem compassionate

and responsible. Can this be done in the near future by

others who may be neither compassionate nor responsible, who

could be utterly reprehensible? Is it time to study what

this type of mind control is all about, beginning with

those contactees who have experienced it.

Hweig told me that he and his colleagues are trying to

prevent mind control from becoming established here on Earth.

Is it because this type of invasion is fast becoming possible

from other sources perhaps right here on Earth? Would mind

invasion by terrestrial governments or organizations be

carried out wtih the same ethical and moral responsibility

and codes of dignity that the UFO mind invasion has

demonstrated in my case?

I have questioned Hweig about his ability to prophesy.

He said, “By probabilities only. I am NOT, I repeat,

NOT super-human. I can do only what you could do, if you

had an equal reservoir of information to draw from. We

prophesy only by balancing potentials, by probabilities.

Even so, we can be rong. Some things are not wholly

predictable.”

So many times I have been asked, “Why don’t they give

you something useful, like a cure for cancer?” Hweig

answers this, “What would you do, Ida, with such

information? If I told you how to build and fly a UFO,

what could you do with that information? Would anyone

listen to you on that subject? Do you have the capital

and knowledge to do the job yourself? I give you the

information you can use. Those who can receive

technological or scientific help ARE RECEIVING IT,

though they may not have a live-in companion as you do.

They receive in the manner in which they are able, and the

information they are able to use.”

I asked Hweig, “Why is there this influx of

extraordinary help at this particular time? Why now?”

Hweig’s answer: “At this time mankind stands in dead

center of the crossroads of human endeavor. I do not mean

anything so simplistic as a single crossroads, but a

convergence of many roads, each seductive in itself. A

compromise must be made and maintained if the current

world civilizations are to endure. The compromise must

react onto many levels of human activity. World

government leaders are struggling to find compromises on

a political level, but the every day people of the world

must find hteir own ways of compromise on an individual

level, such as levels of personal beliefs, as well as

many other kinds. The metaphysical cores, not the

histories, of all religions should be studied, and the

psychological needs that shaped these beliefs. Only

on that level can compromise be found, and until it is

the fires of war will continue to brutalize the human

race.”

That was the only commitment Hweig would make

concerning religion. “We are not here to tamper with your

beliefs,” he said. “Only to urge a compromise and

understanding among them all, to find a set of humanistic

values that all can tolerate and refer to.”

Often he has warned me: “Do not allow any

information we give you to become the basis for a cult

or a religion. No cults! No religions!”

I asked Hweig, “Why has all this come into focus

right at this time?” “For the first time in the course

of this round of civilization, world-wide communication

has brought all the differences of belief and activities

into a coherent area of observation. Patiently, many

individual researchers in many lines have been digging

into their respective studies. With the advent of computer

technology, all of those seperate researches can now be

brought under one roof, so to speak. They can be analyzed

and studied on a comparative basis. Religion, for example,

must be compared to methematics. Does that sound silly?

It is salvation! Archaeology must be studied in

relation to electro-magnetic waves. Only with computers

can such comparitive studies be adequately carried out.

And they will be. This is the direction in which you and

all contactees are being guided: toward the sharing and

comparing of information, which can then become a common

basis for understanding.”

Another direct question, “Am I being mind-controlled?”

Hweig’s answer: “Only to the extent necessary to impel

you toward those studies and activities that will further

our purpose, to have you gain information to share and

compare with others. This in turn will further your own

purpose, to contribute to the health and continuance of your

own civilization.”

I ask, “Who gives you the right to thus invade my

privacy, my mind?”

“You do,” he said, “by the fervor of your desire to

help your own people. You asked to be guided to a way to

be of use, of help. This is the response to your own

request. You put it into words, and we answered. How

else do you expect it could happen?”

I assume he is telling me that no one is going to

perform a miracle for us. If we want to save or help our

civilization, we are going to have to bestir ourselves to

the task. We will have guidance, and information will be

brought to our attention. The action–or inaction–is ours

alone.

The first necessary action is data analysis and

comparison. The compiling is already done. Eery

contactee is a gold mine of resource material. We must

learn how to extract and use it.

We outline these needs by asking, Who, Where, How,

and Why.

First, Who? That would be trained workers,

scientists, students competent to obtain and utilize

information.

Second, Where? In a research center with adequate

facilities.

Third, What? To study contactees who are willing to

divulge their information, and to be studied themselves

in their interaction with the UFO connection.

Fourth, How? By devising a data code comprehensive

enough to cover ALL of the forthcoming material. This

can be modified and extended as the work continues.

Fith, Why? To define specific plans of action, the

manner and means of using that material once the information

is obtained.

Another question I ask Hweigh: “Why is this

information given in this peculiar fashion? Why all the

mystery and camouflage?”

His answer: “Ufolk and their activities are only one

fashion in which information is being given. The Ufolk

can handle the type that leads to physical research, and

to psychological research through scientific disciplines.

Technological, medical and other scientific information and

help is being disseminated by other means.”

I know that all over the world, there are others who

are experiencing the same phenomenon as I: a constant

telepathic contact with other entities, all of whom claim

to be of the UFO fraternity. Although they may introduce

themselves as several varieties of beings, they are all

UFO-connected.

It is my belief we are the vanguard of an experiment

that will in the future be expanded to hundreds and

thousands more of Earth’s inhabitants.

It is important, therefore, that we begin to compare

notes ont hese very personal experiences, and try to find

an answer to that big question:

“Where is all of this leading us?”

This is a far more profitable question than, “Are

UFOs going to invade the Earth at some future date?”

We are already invaded. The Ufolk are here, in our

minds in these telepathic contacts.

While others tell us we are crazy, or fooled by our

own subconscious, or experiencing a split personality or

some other aberration, the Ufolks are blithely taking

advantage of all this time to dig in and establish their

territory in our minds.

Nero fiddled while Rome burned. Our people watch TV

while their minds are wide open to invasion.

There are tremendously ticklish questions to be

answered here. Without profound research, such as a UFO

Center would provide, these questions cannot be answered.

While we older folk have been the experimental

trial-and-error stage of the Ufolk mind invasions, our

young people will be next. With their thinking powers

numbed by constant frenetic entertainments, aided and

abetted for some by alcohol or drugs, their minds could

become so numbed and bewildered that any type of mind

invasion, alien or Earthiank would be a cinch.

Kooks like myself and my live-in companion, Hweig,

should be the subject of serious scientific investigation.

Dr. Sprinkle and his allies recognize and wand to do this,

precisely this.

There comes a time when one individual and his

immediate associates cannot provide al lthe capital and

energy and facilities needed to conduct and complete

complication and adequate studies. It takes the financial

backing and cooperation of those willing and able to

devote their assets, both monetary and intellectual, to

the task.

Believe me, our world governments are not without

some recognition of the problem, but they do not go to the

source of the information they need: the contactees, and

the contactee’s contactors.

Now it is necessary to interject a dictation by Hweig:

Now I, Hweig, will dictate as you, Ida, have no way of

knowing how to interperate these events and scenarios.

First, we must emphasize the necessity to read the

following in its entirety, as we can give the total story only

bit by bit, and later bits will clarify earlier bits that might

discourage the reader if he be not forewarned. Therefore

please be patient, ride all the way through with us, then

judge according to your own understanding.

About 80% of all UFO abductions and personal

contacts are the result of hypnotically induced illusion

and hallucination.

Those who perpetrate this hypnotic state and its

seeming events are unseen but present within the room,

car, or otherwise near the contactee. This unseen

presence is often felt by sensitive persons and all our

contacteees are MOST SENSITIVE==as a pressure in

the atmosphere immediately surrounding them. The

presence is projected by technological means much

beyond the powers of your own people at present. This

indicates the presences are those alien to yourself, and

not of your normal every-day earth person no matter how

advanced in any science, technology, or psychic ability

an earth person might be. The alien presence has powers

far beyond anything you might dream of.

It is necessary for the alien presence to be in close

proximity to the contactee. By close we mean VERY CLOSE,

almost within touching distance.

This presence, being almost pure energy, need not be

in any one particular form, but can attain any form or

abstraction desired. Black and white pinwheels, balls of light,

fireflies, revolving disks, any form may be utilized to come

momentarily into the vision of the contactee. We call this

semi-corporeal form or semi-physical state. Or the presence

can remain totally unseen, in the state that is similar to your

out-of-body experience though the eseence of that presence

is of a more powerful energy than the essence of your

out-of-body state. However, this is the closest analogy

we can find to describe this energy state.

It would frighten you spitless, as you say, Ida, to know

how many times you have been surrouoonded by alien

presences. The knowledge of their extent of control over you

would further alarm. This goes for all contactees of similar

events.

For this reason, the potential alarm, we conceal the facts

just given and instead perpetrate an illusion of physical aliens

who seemingly come into the contactee’s presence, or bring

the contactee into theirs, knowing you can accept and interact

with physical beings in a less frightened and more objective

manner. Yet we wish to get across the idea of VERY ALIEN

personalities therefore we do not offer the visualization of your

own kind of form, even though many of us are precisely your

kind of form.

To feel you were being contacted, and perhaps

controlled, by unseen forces would throw you into a panic,

perhaps beyond acceptance. But to deal fact to face with

physical beings, no matter how alien, would eliminate

some of that panic. At least that is our proposition and

this is why these illusory beings appear.

Not all contactees or abductees face illusory

personages. A very few are quite physical and qqquite

“real” as you term realness.

The illusory beings are the semi-corporeal selves of

very real physical beings, who are at that moment existing

in another area of being, and are quite busy doing

something else physically, but are aware of what is

happening in and to their semi-corporeal self.

This is certainly confusing. Let us recapitulate.

The unseen presences are there through technological

means. They induce hypnotic illusion of abstract forms or

hypnotically project the semi-corporeal forms. These latter

are projections of real beings who are somewhere else

physically at the time. They use projection “copies”

because some time in the future these phsyical

originals may find it necessary to interact with the

contactees in a wholly physical manner. It would

then seem to be an on-going experience.

Let us reiterate for clearness:

A corporeal flesh-and-blood person so projects

himself in an unseen state through technological means

that he enters into close presence of a contactee or

abductee, anddd is then able through his own psychic

power to gain hypnotic control over that contactee when

said contactee is in a relaxed state. If the personage

were present in semi-corporeal or corporeal state, he

could control the situation equally well.

The contactee, being already in a relaxed state, is

readily accessible to the hypnotic form of control.

What transpires thereafter is all illusory or

hallucinatory, unless there is a need for physical

interaction. I such a case the contactee can be

cobnducted aboard a physical craft where the physical

interaction occurs.

By physical interaction we do NOT include

examinations per se, as these may be of either

category, physical or illusory.

Why nshould it be necessary to go through so much

physical effort when illusion will server the purpose

of the Planners just as well? The psychological reaction

of the contactee and the mental and the emotional

results of his scenario, both to himselfl and to his

audience, are what it is all about. If the same results

can be obtained through hypnotically induced illusions

as through physical action, then the illusion is chosen.

We are saying thiings backwards and forewards and

inside out so that, hopefully, no ambiguity remains.

The presence in the room or car or wherever with

the contactee can be felt as an oppression, a

“thickness in the air,” as one contactee described it.

The contactee begins to breathe in a more shallow

manner and too feel closed in, or caged, or captured

or unable to move.

The presence is the energy essence of a real

corporeal being whoo through technological devices

sends his energy self, in a state relative to the

out-of-body state, to this place. Since he is not a

psychic master, he is not able to send his energy

essence through his own psychic power, but must

depend on technological devices.

The energy essence encloses the WILL of the

presence who is elsewhere physically but is linked

through mind stuff to his energy essence and will.

And that human being is so restricted by moral

and spiritual law he cannot, dare not, serve as an

evil power. He carries out instructions received from

higher natures, and by higher we mean more

knowledgeable, more powerful and more responsible.

He is further instructed to use the most compassionate

modes of interacting he can devise.

Non-understading, haste, error of judgment

misreading of contactee’s reactions, as well as many

other factors, can impose a task on the controller that

he may be less than perfectly equipped to handle.

Remember he is only another human trying to do a very

difficult job. He is working with persons as alien to

himself as he is to them.

The presence of the controller is never seen by the

contactee unless it is necessary to attract his attention,

or to rivet his mind onto a single point. At such a time

abstract designs or eevasive objects, usually circular,

are used. Other times the unseen presence can be felt

or sense by the most sensitive to such emanations of

energy.

The condition and reaction of the contactee decides

whether or not the presence is to be seen in any form

or to remain unseen.

Many contactees have mentioned the “feel of an

evil presence.” The presence is NOT EVIL, but is part

of the UNKNOWN and does take CONTROL for a few

moments, and from the arising fear and apprehension

the contactee interprets “evil.”

The contactee response to the sense of being

controller is entirely according to his own nature and

character. One resists and tries to struggle, one weeps

or screams, one jeers, or even ggiggles. In the

response, its kind andn degree, the controller reads

information it is necessary for him to know in order to

continue into the futuure. The preliminary or initial

scene is thus aan act of getting acquanted, each

measuring the other’s potentials. Furthermorer, the

controller is just as much “on the spot” as they

contactee, for he too is undergoing a training

session, and is being weighed and measured by his

instructors.

From his own psychic and trained abilities the

controller then conjures up the appearance of apparent

personalities who seemingly take charge of the scene.

These are appearances of substance, but not true

corporeality. We refer to them as semi-corporeal.

They are projections of corporeal persrons who are to

be physically met in the continued scenario of the

contactee.

If footsteps sound, temperatures changee, and there

are NO SUDDEN TRANSITIONS in the scene, the event

is entirely physical. If so, there are noises, odoors, the

sense of touch as well as vision. Touch does not mean

pain, pain is psychologically induced by the contacteee

through fear.

There can be a shifting of states, a moving in and out

of states during the course of a single event, so a single

event can be a very complicated affair. Each would have

to be minutely inspected and analyzed to realize these

changes. At this moment such a scrutiny is not important

and would only obfuscate this recital.

Thus we see MIND TRAVEL as well as OUT OF BODY

TRAVEL can be induced from outside the contactees.

It is within this framework that the building blocks

of the individual myth are found. When we realize the

changeable conditions of the contactee/abductee event, we

can begin to understand why the scenario itself is so very

difficult to grasp as reality. But in comprehending these

varying and shifting states, the interpretation of the

building blocks becomes much easier.

By symbolic event we do not mean symbols such as

a cross indicates a good guy and an X a bad guy.

We mean the contactee is put through an event that is NOT

TRUE in its content, but its psychological effect symbolizes

one or more of the following ideas. These events and the

ideas they symbolize are the building blocks of the structure.

Depending upon the cultural experience of the contactee,

the following ideas are presented in various manners:

I. Ideas presented in the Scenario of Recognition:

1. of civilizations existing on other planets.

2. of civilizations existing of fantasic technological

achievements

3. of civilizations existing of tremendous scientific

knowledge

4. of civilizations existing with people of various

natures who have knowledge of all kinds,

medical, artistic, cultural, etc.

II. Ideas presented in the Scenario of Biological

Intervention:

1. of cross-breeding with alien races

2. of giving of ovum or sperm for breeding

experiments

3. of implantations of sperm or fertile ova

4. of taking cells for examination,

experimentation or for cloning

III. Ideas presented in the Scario of Initiation:

1. of an unseen secret organization of good will and

2. of inspirational aids to solve problems and

difficulties

3. of secrets of the past to be found anew

4. of promotion of societal contacts leading to

cooperative efforts

5. of monument of good endeavors recorded in lost

places

6. of destruction of powerful deterents to human/

earth collaboration

IV. Ideas presented in the Scenario of Self-Development

and Self-Awareness:

1. of offering new personal insights

2. of strenghtening stabilizing beliefs

3. of offering new projects

4. of analyzing life-evaluations

5. of value of self-freedom

6. of support of person’s intentions/ambitions

There are many other scenarios and parts thereof, and

those can each or all merge one into another. In order to

analyze them at all, we have to dissect the living form.

We come to rejuvenate the earth, and to aid in the

evolutionary development of man.


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